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Canceling NetZero Service

You know how it works: the sign-up process for a service is remarkably painless and quick; the process to cancel is much more difficult. I've had NetZero for many years as a dial-up Internet Service Provider (ISP). I signed up many years ago- well before I moved into my current residence. At the time, I simply needed a service provider and dial-up was my only option (DSL, while gaining ubiquity, hadn't yet made it into my home and I, a poor college student, could only afford the $10/month fees that many dial-up ISPs offered). I was happy with the service- in my experience the billing was accurate, the perceived connection stability and speed was more than sufficient- sufficient enough for dial-up, at any rate. All in all, I would recommend NetZero to anyone who needs a simple dial-up ISP account and nothing more.

The truth, though, is that I haven't actually connected into the web via my netZero service in something like three years. Just like going to the dentist and cleaning the basement, I've been meaning to cancel for some time now but just never got around to doing it- until today. You always hear of the horror stories of account cancellation- ridiculous hold times, unintelligible call center representatives, red tape that prevents a simple transaction from taking place. Perhaps it is to the advantage of companies to perpetuate these (somewhat true) myths as it keeps legacy customers from making that dreaded telephone call.



The Cancellation Process
Having found the small scrap of paper on which I recorded my netZero account details for this very purpose several months ago, I decided that today was the time to finally make the telephone call to customer service to cancel my account. Here's a description of my experience and some advice if you need to cancel your service.

Cancellation instructions are provided by netZero at their site: http://help.netzero.net/support/faq/bp04.html. There is, of course, no online cancellation method and this seems to be the industry norm. The telephone number for the cancellation department is 1-800-851-7908. You are informed by the above web page that you will need to have your netZero member ID and the last four digits of your billing credit card number for verification. When I called, I was also asked for the telephone number associated with the account and my name. None of this information is particularly intrusive, but it would have been nice to know up front that the other details would be needed. I, for one, haven't used the telephone number listed in my account in five years!

When I called, I was greeted by a recording instructing me to press '1' if I was canceling due to technical difficulties. Unless you are canceling for this reason, don't press '1'. Continue to hold and you will be eventually greeted by an operator who will abruptly ask for your account information, one piece at a time. Writing this information down ahead of time will make it that much easier for you.. The total hold time was no more than two minutes, during which netZero played Miles Davis' Freedie Freeloader from his seminal album Kind of Blue. Even if the cancellation process were much more arduous, I would still give them points for such an excellent selection of muzak.

Once the operator has decided that I was, in fact, me, she politely read her script and asked how I could be assisted. I told her that I haven't used the service in a very long time- having had several high speed accounts in the interim- and would like to cancel. To the credit of netZero, I was never pressured into keeping the same account. When I canceled AOL many years ago, I remember their representatives trying to sell me on the benefits of the AOL service, despite my having informed them many times that I just wanted to cancel (I was eventually offered six months of free service). The operator informed me that she would process the order and put me on hold for a few seconds while this took place.

Now, however, this is where the ease of cancellation goes somewhat downhill. A solid half of the time of the telephone call was spent convincing the operator that I didn't want or need two additional products that were for sale. The first product is a back-up dial-up service- ostensibly to replace my DSL connection should it go down. It's a nice feature to have but pretty much every DSL ISP already offers this as a part of the basic DSL package. The second product is a combination of the usual security software tools- firewall, anti-virus, content blocker (so that my kids couldn't surf adult sites when I wasn't around, even though I don't have kids). I already have this software thanks to any number of free tools such as Avast and ZoneAlarm. The well-meaning operator, being told at least twice that I was protected by similar tools, spent a while fruitlessly trying to convince me the value of the auto-update features of these tools ("so that I wouldn't need to spend $60 or more when a new addition comes out"). Wow. She eventually informs me that should would send me a free CD with these software packages. Free is the mini-mantra here.

Only in mumbling, however, do I hear that the software is free for a month and then I would pay $4.95 / month unless I cancel. The back-up dial-up service is also free for a month, continuing thereafter for $4.95 / month. If I weren't paying close attention (say, for example, if I were at work, with a child, or just distracted) I could easily have put myself on the hook for two new products while canceling the first. The end result would be about the same amount of money being billed each month! What's even more aggravating is that I had to explicitly ask the operator not to send me these items. Without this explicit request, I would have been given them anyway ("I'm just going to go ahead and..."). So, then, I would have to call back in a month to cancel two services, not just one. What's even sneakier is the free-for-a-month clause. This means that my next credit card statement shouldn't show any netZero changes- leading one to believe that he has canceled. In the month after that, however, the billing would resume.

I'll update this article with details once my credit card's next two monthly billing cycles come and go so that I can check to see if I'm really canceled. For what it's worth: the operator with whom I spoke was polite and not sneaky herself; she was simply reading from the provided script.

Have you canceled netZero or any other ISPs? Write a comment and tell everyone how it went...
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1. Noah from Dallas TX said:
This happened to me EXACTLY! Minus the offer of AV package - I canceled in January 2009 and the call took 15 minutes!!! I can replay the call in my mind and get pissed when I didn't record it. I want to expose Mark Goldman SO BADLY. He tricks users and bills their credit cards without mercy after people think they have canceled their accounts.

I read horror stories about canceling from:
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/internet/netzero_cancellation.html

If you give your routing number of your bank account as a form of payment, you are screwed because they will keep draining money via that method even after cancellation. The only way to stop them permanently is to close the bank account.

Luckily I gave them a CC. Best part is, my CC had already been canceled/deactivated due to my old bank being absorbed by a new one. And to further prove that, I had already received & activated a new CC over the phone and was told on the automated activation call that my old CC was canceled and I should dispose of it. This took place Fall 2008.

Well fast forward to Jan 2009 to my Netzero cancellation call. Keep in mind I have not updated my CC info on the account to ensure I am not "accidentally" billed in the future. My card has a new number so I feel safe.

I believe I waited at least 15 minutes while being on hold, listening to their music. And ironically I received the same asian woman (possibly from Taiwan) I had a whole year before when I tried to cancel. I recognized her voice immediately and this time she used a different name. I expected her to give a random American name as most overseas customer reps are told to do to make the experience as friendly as possible. At&t support based in Indonesia has done this to me when I called for internet support & Dell support in India did this to me when I called customer support.

She kept trying to get me to keep the "backup" internet service for $4.95 that I had agreed to over a year ago to keep from canceling then. I thought it was a nice deal. Then I got high speed, time to cancel.

She kept repeatedly offering me free 2 month offers and I said I did not want it, just to cancel. This reminded me of the times AOL reps pressured me to accept free month trials years ago when calling to cancel. I didn't raise my voice or yell, but I should have. After 15 minutes of arguing, she finally said she would upgrade my Netzero Platinum account to have 2 free months of Megamail so I could verify I received my "cancellation email". I WAS VERY SKEPTICAL OF THIS. Because all they need me to do is to login, JUST ONCE, even to access my mail via webmail.netzero.com. And it counts as me using their service. So she told me I had indeed canceled and to check my email for that "cancellation email".

I waited out the first free month. Then came the second month, growing curious if they actually sent the confirmation letter and needing to forward it for evidence, I logged in. Needless to say, there was no confirmation email that I canceled. This pissed me off. I watched my bank statement like a hawk for the next month because I knew what was coming. One month passed, no charge. But then September came, and sure enough there was the charge.

But not for $4.95, but $9.95! I immediately called my bank's fraud dept and told them there was fraudulent activity. I was worried they wouldn't take this issue seriously since they tend to believe you are at fault for not canceling services on time, and so on. He asked the date of cancellation, I had that written down luckily. I explained part of the story and that I had left a invalid/canceled CC on their billing so that it's impossible that the charge ever made it on to my account. Thus, fraudulent means must of been used. He told me "your old card is still active" - I literally FLIPPED. A bank card (backed by Mastercard) that that was confirmed over the phone to be deactivated last year is still active, after having a new CC activated that supposedly canceled the old one?!?!?

Anyway, he said "I'm canceling that card now". I still was skeptical of that. And he refunded the charge and said he would send some paperwork for me to fill out or else the refund would be reversed. I hawkishly watched the mail & planned to fill it out fast and mail it back fast. I probably would of went as far as even photocopying for proof in case they "didn't receive it".

The paperwork never came, and I grew worried. I almost called them, but I didn't want them to possibly re-review the case and have them take away the refund because they could claim they sent the paperwork and I'm just lying about not receiving it. So I didn't call, the papers came but with a standard message: "Your claim has been honored". No paperwork to fill out, which made me raise an eyebrow and me worry some more.

But more than 5 months later, the refund was not taken away thankfully.

What strikes me as scary is, if this one woman was screening all Netzero cancellation calls? Impossible, I know. But it certainly seemed like it in my case. I have 100% confidence if I call again, I will get the same woman. I think I'll conduct an experiment and see how times I reach her out of 10 calls.

Anyway, I've been wanting to expose the bad practices of Netzero badly since then and get the company shut down. They are liars & scammers. Especially Mark Goldman (because the retention practices are approved by him).  September 02, 2009 (12:37:45 AM) flag as inappropriate
 
2. Jon from Kokomo said:
I just went through this process. My modem died and rather than buy a new modem we decided just to cancel our service. We were not unhappy with dialup but not really happy either. I called to cancel in early Oct (explaining and having them repeat back to me my reasons - namely no way to use the service). Fast forward to mid Nov when I got another charge from NetZero. It turns out they simply put my account on hold for a month. I called back and asked to confirm cancellation and to get my $9.95 back. They confirmed the cancellation but then tried to tell me that they were keeping my email access up for free for 90 days with no mention (until I asked) about the fee on the 91st day. It took a minute but I convinced them that (since I had no internet access) I did not need an email address that I could not access. The rep quickly confirmed a few things and then said goodbye and hung up. I was tired of dealing with it at that point in time and am going to eat the $9.95. Heaven help them though if they charge me next month.  November 11, 2009 (08:13:32 AM) flag as inappropriate
 
3. eric from philly said:
Should i get a lawyer for protection? Against netzero and their underhanded tactics they used after you cancel your account. It won't cost much with pre-paid legel.  February 24, 2010 (05:25:51 PM) flag as inappropriate